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Pre Season Tour

Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:20 pm

What a squad we have sent out to OZ sell shirts this year
4 Goalkeepers including DDG who wants out

Defenders include the fearsome centre backs of Smalling,Jones,Bailly and the injured Rojo
Full backs are an overweight Shaw,an old Young plus Tuanzabe,Wan Bissaka,Lindelof and dalot

Midfield is an embarrasment
Chong,Garner,Gomes,Pereira,McTominay,Periera,Mata,Pogba who wants out and Matic

Forwards are even worse
Jesse,the Titanic Lukaku who wants out,Rashford ,Martial and the might Greenwood

i wouldn't fancy that lot to get promoted from the championship
Would you??

Don't forget though.Limited availability on match tickets :laugh: :laugh:



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:20 am

just heard that Paul Pogba and Jesse lingard have had a blazing row over nothing in Australia
Clearly Paul is desperate to get out
It is about time somebody did something positive.
I would suggest go and buy 3 top players immediately.Do whatever it takes to get players like de Ligt,Bruno Fernandes and Alderweld and then say to Pogba "now here's the deal""We are starting to build a team and we want you to be part of it.It is now up to you.If you want to go then we will sell you immediately.If you want to stay then shut up and work hard".His ability would make that conversation a possibility for me.
IMO you would be wasting your time until somebody showed Paul a desire to build a football team and not just a brand.I think that last thought is an impossibly stupid one but i would love it if somebody above showed a willingness to do what it takes for glory as opposed to profit.Let's face it that is what we are criticising Paul for
And BTW why has Lukaku gone on tour?He doesn't want to be at the club and nobody wants him to be at the club



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:21 pm

raycreative wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:20 am
just heard that Paul Pogba and Jesse lingard have had a blazing row over nothing in Australia
Clearly Paul is desperate to get out
It is about time somebody did something positive.
I would suggest go and buy 3 top players immediately.Do whatever it takes to get players like de Ligt,Bruno Fernandes and Alderweld and then say to Pogba "now here's the deal""We are starting to build a team and we want you to be part of it.It is now up to you.If you want to go then we will sell you immediately.If you want to stay then shut up and work hard".His ability would make that conversation a possibility for me.
IMO you would be wasting your time until somebody showed Paul a desire to build a football team and not just a brand.I think that last thought is an impossibly stupid one but i would love it if somebody above showed a willingness to do what it takes for glory as opposed to profit.Let's face it that is what we are criticising Paul for
And BTW why has Lukaku gone on tour?He doesn't want to be at the club and nobody wants him to be at the club
I wouldn't waste my time with Pogba, it's obvious he wants out, his whole body language is saying he doesn't want to be at United a moment longer, I agree with your comment in another place that he is a tournament player, not a United player. The same can be said of Lukaku.

I honestly cannot see us signing any landmark players, Maguire is way overpriced, even for United, no-one had hear of De Ligt before the ECL this season, it's going to take an awful lot to prise any marquee players away from top European of British clubs


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:30 pm

Sigmar wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:21 pm
raycreative wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:20 am
just heard that Paul Pogba and Jesse lingard have had a blazing row over nothing in Australia
Clearly Paul is desperate to get out
It is about time somebody did something positive.
I would suggest go and buy 3 top players immediately.Do whatever it takes to get players like de Ligt,Bruno Fernandes and Alderweld and then say to Pogba "now here's the deal""We are starting to build a team and we want you to be part of it.It is now up to you.If you want to go then we will sell you immediately.If you want to stay then shut up and work hard".His ability would make that conversation a possibility for me.
IMO you would be wasting your time until somebody showed Paul a desire to build a football team and not just a brand.I think that last thought is an impossibly stupid one but i would love it if somebody above showed a willingness to do what it takes for glory as opposed to profit.Let's face it that is what we are criticising Paul for
And BTW why has Lukaku gone on tour?He doesn't want to be at the club and nobody wants him to be at the club
I wouldn't waste my time with Pogba, it's obvious he wants out, his whole body language is saying he doesn't want to be at United a moment longer, I agree with your comment in another place that he is a tournament player, not a United player. The same can be said of Lukaku.

I honestly cannot see us signing any landmark players, Maguire is way overpriced, even for United, no-one had hear of De Ligt before the ECL this season, it's going to take an awful lot to prise any marquee players away from top European of British clubs

We will sign a marquee player or hold on to Pogba
The important sponsors have,i am told,made it clear that they are off at the earliest opportunity if the best they have is Fred,Sanchez and Jones
I was watching the squad train in Perth and i honestly didn't know the names of two thirds of them
Just weedy young kids who i believe would struggle in the championship
Ed Woodward has gone dumb again and the fans are fighting,as usual,about what is happening.The answer is nothing
Ole initially said,at the end of last season, he wanted 6 or 7 players out and has now changed his mind
He wanted ALL the new players in before the start of the tour and got just 2 kids
I am hearing he is pleading with Lukaku to stay.I hope Ed Woodward doesn't hear that
Ole looks out of his depth already with no firm plans
To be fair it is no different to David Moyes,LVG and Jose.Sooner or later everybody will realise every manager who joins who has won everything suddenly becomes a useless bastard.So i wonder who it can be
It will be interesting to hear his press conference on MUTV tomorrow
"One last question Karen" will be giving all the press a bollocking about "don't ask about Pogba,Lukaku and DDG" also "don't ask about transfer taergets"
One last question!!!



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:45 am

raycreative wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:20 am
just heard that Paul Pogba and Jesse lingard have had a blazing row over nothing in Australia
Clearly Paul is desperate to get out
It is about time somebody did something positive.
I would suggest go and buy 3 top players immediately.Do whatever it takes to get players like de Ligt,Bruno Fernandes and Alderweld and then say to Pogba "now here's the deal""We are starting to build a team and we want you to be part of it.It is now up to you.If you want to go then we will sell you immediately.If you want to stay then shut up and work hard".His ability would make that conversation a possibility for me.
IMO you would be wasting your time until somebody showed Paul a desire to build a football team and not just a brand.I think that last thought is an impossibly stupid one but i would love it if somebody above showed a willingness to do what it takes for glory as opposed to profit.Let's face it that is what we are criticising Paul for
And BTW why has Lukaku gone on tour?He doesn't want to be at the club and nobody wants him to be at the club
The blazing row was them joking around

I would do exactly what you said, and then tell Pogba to fornicate off and go buy himself a buyer


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:35 am

they didn't look like they were joking around to me
The players in front made a point of ignoring it and the player next to Pogba looked like he was pulling Pogba away
Jesse told his dad it was an argument as well



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:48 am

Sigmar wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:21 pm
raycreative wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:20 am
just heard that Paul Pogba and Jesse lingard have had a blazing row over nothing in Australia
Clearly Paul is desperate to get out
It is about time somebody did something positive.
I would suggest go and buy 3 top players immediately.Do whatever it takes to get players like de Ligt,Bruno Fernandes and Alderweld and then say to Pogba "now here's the deal""We are starting to build a team and we want you to be part of it.It is now up to you.If you want to go then we will sell you immediately.If you want to stay then shut up and work hard".His ability would make that conversation a possibility for me.
IMO you would be wasting your time until somebody showed Paul a desire to build a football team and not just a brand.I think that last thought is an impossibly stupid one but i would love it if somebody above showed a willingness to do what it takes for glory as opposed to profit.Let's face it that is what we are criticising Paul for
And BTW why has Lukaku gone on tour?He doesn't want to be at the club and nobody wants him to be at the club
I wouldn't waste my time with Pogba, it's obvious he wants out, his whole body language is saying he doesn't want to be at United a moment longer, I agree with your comment in another place that he is a tournament player, not a United player. The same can be said of Lukaku.

I honestly cannot see us signing any landmark players, Maguire is way overpriced, even for United, no-one had hear of De Ligt before the ECL this season, it's going to take an awful lot to prise any marquee players away from top European of British clubs
That was me, and I stand by it


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:58 pm

Ray are you here in Perth


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:21 pm

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Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:58 pm
Ray are you here in Perth
I was thinking of travelling as i have never been to Australia but when they told my friends Pat Crerand and Stewart Gradner they couldn't afford hotel rooms i gave it a miss
Since then they stuck Stewart on a cheap flight so he is in Perth
If you link up with the team and want to get deeper then find either Stewart or Sulli from MUTV or find Robbo or Denis Irwin who are the two ambassadors and tell them you are a friend of Ray Adler.They will take you into the lions den
I suspect he is not with the party but if you see Ed Woodward give him a kick in the balls and tell him its a present from me



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:21 pm

raycreative wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:21 pm
Sandies wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:58 pm
Ray are you here in Perth
I was thinking of travelling as i have never been to Australia but when they told my friends Pat Crerand and Stewart Gradner they couldn't afford hotel rooms i gave it a miss
Since then they stuck Stewart on a cheap flight so he is in Perth
If you link up with the team and want to get deeper then find either Stewart or Sulli from MUTV or find Robbo or Denis Irwin who are the two ambassadors and tell them you are a friend of Ray Adler.They will take you into the lions den
I suspect he is not with the party but if you see Ed Woodward give him a kick in the balls and tell him its a present from me
Will do mate thanks

There is a training tomorrow but it actually turns out you need a ticket for it which I don’t have

They’re also no really accessible to the public after the David Moyes debacle at Bondi Beach in Sydney last time. So they’re really hard to find in public

I’m hoping after the game they’ll be at the casino, which is where Chelsea were last year after the game according to locals


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:32 pm

I have sent Stewart Gardner an email, although i am not sure he will get it

I do know he "lives"on twitter
I personally am shit at social media
Send him a message to twitter https://twitter.com/stewartgardner?lang=en and tell him i have sent him an email asking him to get you a ticket for the training
Make sure you tell him you are a friend of mine and the very least he will do is confirm what the itinerary is



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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:14 am

Sent. Thanks mate hoping for the best


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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:39 am

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Sent. Thanks mate hoping for the best
I got hold of Stewart
He has left two tickets for you on the reception of the Crown Towers Hotel.
They are in my name which is Ray Adler
Let me know if you get this message and the tickets



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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 pm

Thanks so much for that Ray. Stewart hadn’t replied so I stopped looking on here at 4 because it was too late for me to get there.

Really appreciate the effort mate thank you


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Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:28 pm

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Thanks so much for that Ray. Stewart hadn’t replied so I stopped looking on here at 4 because it was too late for me to get there.

Really appreciate the effort mate thank you
Good Effort Ray


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Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:31 pm

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Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 pm
Thanks so much for that Ray. Stewart hadn’t replied so I stopped looking on here at 4 because it was too late for me to get there.

Really appreciate the effort mate thank you
Happy to have tried

Is there anything else going on that you can't get tickets for?
I will put you in touch directly with Stewart who will be happy to get you anything you need



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:45 am

raycreative wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:31 pm
Sandies wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:18 pm
Thanks so much for that Ray. Stewart hadn’t replied so I stopped looking on here at 4 because it was too late for me to get there.

Really appreciate the effort mate thank you
Happy to have tried

Is there anything else going on that you can't get tickets for?
I will put you in touch directly with Stewart who will be happy to get you anything you need
Um, I don’t think there are any other events left
Just the 2 games,

I have to go back to melb on Sunday night so I’m only going to the sat night game.

Will head to the casino after the match hopefully something is going on but guessing they’ll be kept private

Thanks Again ray, appreciate the effort


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Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:44 am

One of the coaches was taken to hospital
With an overdose


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:45 pm

Perth are planning on playing 2 fifteen year olds and a 17 year old tomorrow
This sounds like a thriller coming up!!
Who needs the Champions League :laugh: :laugh:



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:54 pm

Regarding Stewart, how does he manage to act so chipper when talking about United?

I genuinely feel sorry for our journalists, as we don't make it easy for them. Both on and off the field (transfer business)


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:45 pm

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Regarding Stewart, how does he manage to act so chipper when talking about United?

I genuinely feel sorry for our journalists, as we don't make it easy for them. Both on and off the field (transfer business)
Stewart is permanently shitting himself
He has a wife and a kid to feed so he treads very carefully
That said i and he believe he is being marginalised and it is only a matter of time before they arseholes with no feeling find somebody cheaper.Even though they ain't paying him much
I personally think he needs to be kicked out to fulfil his potential



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:45 am

Good effort Ray.

Shame you couldn't make it Brent, hope you enjoy the game.


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Re: Pre Season Tour

Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:15 pm

Good to have a look at our new boys, and the newish academy players etc.

I thought Daniel James did a good job on the left in the first half, with lots of threatening crosses in.

Second half Wan-Bissaka was the stand out for me, with his great engine and tackling ability to the fore.

Gomes and Greenward were OK. and of course Garner had a great moment and goal.



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:13 pm

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Good to have a look at our new boys, and the newish academy players etc.

I thought Daniel James did a good job on the left in the first half, with lots of threatening crosses in.

Second half Wan-Bissaka was the stand out for me, with his great engine and tackling ability to the fore.

Gomes and Greenward were OK. and of course Garner had a great moment and goal.

James did OK.Not really a test imo
Wait until he comes up against top class strong fulbacks who will kick the shit out of him.
He easily got past what he was playing against today,as expected,but he needs to get his head up and pick a cross and not just thump everything low and hard

Wan Bissaka looks a player

The midfield was poor in the first half.Couldn't get a pass going.
That showed when you realised that Ashley Young was probably our best playmaker in the first half

Nothing more than a behind closed doors kick around except thy had a big crowd handing over lots of Australian dollars



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Re: Pre Season Tour

Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:17 pm

I'm seriously hoping that the good displays and results during this pre season haven't lulled Ole and Ed into a false sense of security.

Perfect excuse for Ed to sit on his hands.

Gotta give it to the boys, they performed well, but when it gets real, it's a different sport altogether


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