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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:32 pm

i think you wanted to ask if Rooney deserves to be higher than Ronaldo's place at the club. not legends but really help the club.
I can't call him great because he is a cnut.



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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:35 pm

Yes, if purely based on the amount of goals he has scored, which helped Utd winning several titles during his time with the club


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:28 pm

4th highest scorer at the club. If that isnt worthy of being called a great, then what is.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:45 pm

Great player with great memories, but also a great idiot.

I wouldn't consider someone worthy of legendary status if fans want him to leave, and it's not for his lack of abilities (bar Bruce)


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:56 pm

I think he will be considered a great, and eventually a legend. it's just gonna take a long time.

Dennis Law joined city didnt he. I would imagine rooney leaving would initially taste sour but two or three decades from now, he will be considered one of the best players of his generation, been at the club 9 years, won the league 5 times, champions league, so many goals for us and lets not forget he is already 4th ( or 3rd? ) on the list of most goals for a united player.



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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:01 pm

Law was sold to City without him knowing lol.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:04 pm

Correction, he was given as a free transfer, he signed because it was either that or look somewhere else on his own. Retired after a year


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:32 pm

point is, even ending up at the rival club might not necessarily cost someone the legend status in the long term.



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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:33 pm

I put him in the Paul Ince category (or Tevez if he had had a longer career here).

Great players who contributed a lot to the team when they were here, but what a disgrace of a human being


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:33 pm

did a United great have done bad things to the club like Wazza have done? or could you guys compare how Ronaldo departed against Rooney for example?
he is a great footballer but to be at a legendary united status, he ain't near with them. proven scorer, help the club add more trophies nevertheless but as a United great.

he just need to get his act all together first and really have a ball on what he really wants.



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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:36 pm

Siamak Khaledi wrote:point is, even ending up at the rival club might not necessarily cost someone the legend status in the long term.
Law didn't ask to leave twice. Not the same.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:42 pm

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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:15 am

No, part of being a United great is buying into the club and the United family. Rooney has never done that

Great player, not a united great


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:42 pm

I think that Rooney has put up the number to be considered a United great, however (with a few exceptions) I don't think he will be a "liked" great. He will always have an asterisk at the side of his name, * Asked for a transfer - Twice


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:50 pm

Matt wrote:Great player with great memories, but also a great idiot.

I wouldn't consider someone worthy of legendary status if fans want him to leave, and it's not for his lack of abilities (bar Bruce)

To be fair, it partly is. Well... his lack of performances


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:20 pm

His lack of performances are not down to a lack of abilities, we know what he's capable of as he's shown that.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:01 pm

it's official

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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:12 pm

As a player definitely a great , but as a person no... he's a little b*tch the way he's been with the club.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:00 pm

Great player? Sure.

Club great? Sod off.

Giggs. Keane. Scholes. Gaz. Becks. Players that gave everything for the club. This idiot is a mercenary. Wanted to leave a few years ago. Likely has wanted to leave ever since, just covered it up.

We mock LFC fans for giving Suarez a standing ovation in a friendly when he wants nothing to do with them, but aren't prepared to say that Rooney is everything but a great?


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:16 pm

being objective it's hard to argue with what he's achieved but he's completely tarnished his legacy. could definitely have been a great, you look at games like milan 3-2 in 2007, west ham 3-2 in 2011, milan away (3-1?) in 2010, city 3-1 in the semi in 2010, both of the roma games in 2007, the chip vs portsmouth in the fa cup in 2007?, the volley (can't remember who it was against but also in the fa cup in 2007), the bolton hattrick in 2006, plus the videos steve posted, he's given united so many memorable goals and moments. the past two years though have really been a skid mark on the pants of his united career.

the majority of united fans will look back and have feelings of bitterness toward him which are justified.

look at someone like ole compared to rooney.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:21 pm

Thats a great comparison mate. Rooney is a much better player than Ole ever was, yet Ole is the far bigger legend (Y)


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:28 pm

Good player? Yes
Very good player? Yes
Great player? Sometimes
Legend? No

Just hope he doesn't beat Sir Bobby's goalscoring record, would be a shame to have him as our no.1 goalscorer and a real legend as no.2



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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:48 am

197 goals in 402 games

no other player has scored more goals vs citeh than him
has been our best player and scored in cup finals (Champions league,Fifa World Club + League cup finals)
PFA Players' Player of the Year - 2009–10
PFA Young Player of the Year - 2004–05, 2005–06
PFA Fans' Player of the Year - 2005–06, 2009–10
PFA Premier League Team of the Year - 2005–06, 2009–10, 2011–12
Premier League Player of the Month - February 2005, December 2005, March 2006, October 2007, January 2010
Barclays Player of the Year - 2009–10
Goal of the Season - 2004–05 (Middlesbrough volley), 2006–07(Bolton counter-attack), 2010–11 (Winner vs Citeh)
FIFA/FIFPro World XI - 2011
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball - 2008
Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year - 2005–06, 2009–10

His goal vs City was awarded the BEST GOAL in the Premier League 20 Seasons awards..

then you got the 5 premier league titles, 2 league cups, Champions League, FIFA World Club Championships,3 community shields ..

Powerful and strong on the ball, Rooney's ability to pick a pass, shoot from distance and unselfishly work for the team is unparalleled in world football. His passion can never been called into question. Has been played on the right or left midfield, central midfield, behind the striker and upfront on his own.

I admit last year he's been disappointing but the previous year he scored 34 goals, and in 2009-2010 season he scored 34 goals aswell.


Even if he leaves, I would remember everything he has done for the club.

For me, he's a united legend purely because of what he has done on the pitch. If your definition of a legend is someone being a nice guy, or whatever, then that's your opinion, but if we are speaking about purely what's happened on the pitch, then he is DEFINITELY a legend for me.


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Re: Could Rooney be considered a United great even if he lea

Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:22 am

Would wait for Ben's response.
Being a legend on and off the pitch. Players shouldn't tarnish the club to become an idiot. Football wise he is good. Baloteli is good at the pitch but shit as a person. People rate you as a footballer and as a person.



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