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Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

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Thursday 28th November 2019, KO 15:50 BST.



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:06 am

Is this game being played in Astana, because at present the temperature out there is -8deg C, with snow, ow call me an old sceptic, but doesn't that mean a frozen pitch ?

Just checked according to Sky this is being played at the Astana arena !

I hope the pitch is heated and indoors


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:08 pm

Indoors: aye
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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 pm

Interesting squad that's travelled:

Goalkeepers: Lee Grant (36), Matej Kovar (19).

Defenders: Max Taylor (19), Luke Shaw (24), Axel Tuanzebe (22), Teden Mengi (17), Di'Shon Bernard (19), Ethan Laird (18).

Midfielder: Dylan Levitt (19), Ethan Galbraith (18), Arnau Puigmal (18), James Garner (18), Jesse Lingard (26), Tahith Chong (19), Angel Gomes (19).

Forwards: Largie Ramazani (19), D'Mani Bughail-Mellor (19), Mason Greenwood (18).



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:33 pm

Wow - I've never even heard of 4 of that squad!

Wonder who will be captain? Shaw?? Lingard???


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:13 pm

Says a lot about where Lingard is at right now. I'd even captain Tuanzebe

Interested to see how Laird goes. Williams had to move to left back early on to avoid him and now he's one of our most solid players


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:39 am

Talking about Williams i see Ole has sent Luke Shaw to Astana tonight as he claims Williams is that good he now sees him as his number one left back and Shaw now has to fight for his place
Ole is so impressed with Williams that he has shelved plans to sign a left back to replace Ashley Young
Now call me an old cynic but Williams got a complete dicking at left back against the mighty Sheffield United last weekend
So much so that i fear for what will happen against Son and Sterling in the next couple of weeks



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:00 pm

Anybody on here got the slightest interest in
This game?
This team?
This club?

my two favourite players are in this mighty team.they are half a Fellaini in Chong and the circus midget in Gomes



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:58 pm

raycreative wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:00 pm
Anybody on here got the slightest interest in
This game?
This team?
This club?

my two favourite players are in this mighty team.they are half a Fellaini in Chong and the circus midget in Gomes
If you didn't tell me that squad was Manchester United I never would have guessed.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Some 'fans' we have here.

The youngsters were in fact lively, and did a good job especially in midfield.

I don't know if I can be bothered here anymore, as it is more like a group of Liverpool supporters knocking Manchester United than fans.



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:16 pm

DaveMart wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:57 pm
Some 'fans' we have here.

The youngsters were in fact lively, and did a good job especially in midfield.

I don't know if I can be bothered here anymore, as it is more like a group of Liverpool supporters knocking Manchester United than fans.
I think you would be correct if you decided to give up on this forum if you think the kids,or indeed anybody that played today was "lively"
This is a team that everybody else in the group has put 5 and 6 past them yet we struggled to win the first leg and lost the second leg

They were total shit and if you choose to buy into the bullshit of "just give them 2 or 4 years" then you are a mug
The Liverpool fans you mention just love what is happening at this club

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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:54 pm

DaveMart wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:57 pm
Some 'fans' we have here.

The youngsters were in fact lively, and did a good job especially in midfield.

I don't know if I can be bothered here anymore, as it is more like a group of Liverpool supporters knocking Manchester United than fans.
Yeah, I would way rather watch a bunch of kids no ones heard of lose to a European minnow then watch some of the best players in the world competing against Barcelona for the Champions League.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:23 am

Not sure if Ole did the right thing or not sending the academy out there to play this one, i think it just proves the contempt a lot of clubs have for this competition.
i would imagine that any other EPL team with the group won would have done some thing similar, why risk your first team players, when there is no need.
Not sure about the quality of the play because I suspect like most poeple with it being a very early kick off few managed to watch it, from what I gather Chong missed a sitter from six yards and the opposition goalie played a blinder.
Do i care ?
Not really because much stiffer teams await us the further we progress, that will be a better test.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:27 am

Good and fair comments above but there is actually much more to this to consider
Yes we have qualified but we have not guaranteed top spot and the possibility of an easier tie in the next round
To win this cup is an almost certain no no but it is our only chance to get into next years Champions League
In the 1960's this club would fly to Malta to play on concrete or Gornik to play on a frozen pitch
They sent the first team on these awkward journeys but they did the job
The fact this is a bit further and on a Thursday is the fault only of this football club and its decline into obscurity
A continueing decline i might add

These might have been kids but they are not,as being suggested,the third team
These are,in many cases,first reserves and immediate back up players
The fact they are not good shows how poor the recruitment policy for the academy has been
City have grabbed all the top youngsters in the north.Players such as Foden which is why they win or strongly contest the youth cup every year
Same comment for Chelsea in the south.Just look at there former academy,home grown players now establishing themselves in the premier league

We have players like Chong,Gomes,Tuanzabe who are just not improving
You can say with a good degree of certainty that they are going to play an entire career in football at the likes of Sheffield Wednesday or Huddersfield which is the talent level they are showing



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:22 am

Did people forget we were already qualified? Why the fornicate would we waste our time sending our best side to a country known for being the home of a fictional character in below freezing temperatures


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Europa League vs FC Astana (a)

Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:37 am

Sandies wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:22 am
Did people forget we were already qualified? Why the fornicate would we waste our time sending our best side to a country known for being the home of a fictional character in below freezing temperatures
Qualified-Yes
Guaranteed top spot and the probablility of an easier draw in the next round-No
It just shows me how weak the overall strength of the squad is
There is nothing to back up a mostly mediocre first eleven other than a reserve team that plays its football in tier two of the reserves leagues
There is nothing more than a pile of average pushing the first X1 which is in itself average

Average not long ago was Nicky Butt,Phil Neville,Teddy Sheringham and Ole
Now it's Chong,Gomes and er er well that's it
The academy is fornicate and sacrificed to the womens team



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