Sigmar wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:17 pm
Sandies wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:50 pm
raycreative wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:40 am
Fergie being around should not be a nightmare
It could/should be a challenge to impress the great man with your ability's
This. Isn't it amazing how Ole has used Sir Alex as inspiration for himself and the players instead of trying to oppose him and poo their pants at the thought of replacing him
It's one of the key reasons he's been able to actually be successful managing this club, unlike the last 3 clowns who last their asses trying to run this club
Van Gaal was sacked after winning an FA Cup because Maureen became available and he was always first choice, if you think that's not true then there is no help.
Maureen also won us a trophy or two, but he fell foul because of his attitude of trying to buy success and then blaming everyone but himself when it went tits up. To be fair Maureen had not just lost the fans and the players, he had lost the board as well, and it came down to who had the most nerve, in the end the board lost theirs and sacked him.
The quote from Ray is bollocks, Fergie has the same influence as Matt did, and while I relish what Ole has done, it still rings true of deJa vu with me, you have short memories, working with Matt looking over his shoulder 24/7 killed Wilf Mcguinness, the stress made him lose all his hair, having someone that successful can be an albatross around the clubs neck, not simply someone to look up to.
The challenge is the same, just different names, it used to be that a new manager had to live up to Matt and win things, now that albatross is called Fergie.
I am not sure why you feel the need to personally attack me all the time by using sayings like "the quote from Ray is bollocks" whilst comparing Ole/SAF to Matt/Wilf McGuinness
You are way out of your depth when you talk about those comparisons
Both Matt and Wilf were very good friends of mine
Indeed i helped Wilf write his book.
Unfortunately Wilf is not too well at the moment
Wilf was probably,now thinking about it,was another Ole
Wilf gave his entire playing career to United.He joined them as a young schoolboy and rose through the ranks along with the babes
As such he understood what is currently being referred to as United's DNA
Like Ole, Wilf was a a very good player in his own right but trying to get into a team regularly that included better players such as Duncan Edwards was nigh on impossible
He could have left and commanded a first team place in many other top clubs but chose to stay.Just like Ole
Wilf badly broke his leg which ended his playing career but even then his desire to stay in football was such that he tried to make a comeback whilst taking his coaching badges
He qualified as a coach and got as far as making the bench in his attempt at a comeback
**I will diversify at this point with a lovely story**
In my own collection i had the notes from the insurance companies about Wilf.
He had been insured by several companies and these private letters were the insuarance company talking to each other about his comeback attempt
When it had been decided that his career was done, they paid out United who in turn paid out Wilf and assumed that was the end of it
He started his attempted comeback and they watched him.
One letter notes that although he is back running he is "running with a limp"
But when he did get as far as the bench with sheer determination the insurance company asked for the money back
Matt called them into his office and told them to fornicate off
Wilf fondly remembered it as he remembered Matt telling him the story.He recalled United got £30k and gave him £25k
I told him that United got £35k and gave him £25k.He would not believe it until i showed/gave him the file.He was fuming
He has the file to this day
So the comparison i am making is that Ole/SAF is as close as you can get to Wilf/Matt Busby
Indeed you could say the same for Ryan Giggs/SAF and although was not a horror show it didn't really work out
Who knows where the Ole show will end up
After important losses to Arsenal and Wolves in a week we have been looking for excuses haven't we
"The players were not quite fit" is the obvious one
Let's face it if a Jose/LVG had lost those two so tamely they would have been abused on this forum.
But it's Ole so it's OK as he has done such a great job
So what happens if we get slaughtered by Barca and City in the next month.
I hope it doesn't happen but you can't rule it out
And behind all of that there is no denying this team is well short of being capable of challenging for anything important