Sigmar wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:59 pm
Depending on who you choose to believe the club have spent verging on £600m on players since Ferguson went upstairs, in 2013, that amounts to £100m each season ( on average), how much should we have spent if that is not enough ?
A quote is that players have been bought for commercial reasons :
Hardly record busting deals !
As for commercialism, in the July to September of 2015 a certain Memphis Depay beat Schweinstiger on shirt sales
Zlatans Shirt sales reported paid for Pogba, Is that a bad thing ?
Falcao sold less that Di Maria.....but he doesn't get a mention.
Commercialism these days is a part of football, without it we would be DIv 4 outfit, the matchday profit doesn't even pay DDG's wages, so money has to be made in other ways, I have to accept that, and other fans should accept it too.
We criticise the midfield, but would they be better if they wre not always looking over their shoulder to cover a full back who should have been shipped out years ago, would our centre back pairing be better if they did have to have one eye on the RH side all the time ?
Commercialism is part of the game.
Of course i accept that
But in United's case it is the ONLY part of the game they put any credit to
You have proven that for me with your information
Scweinsteiger,Zlatan,Falcoa,you claim, were not record bursting delas
They were not money wise but what they did do was hold up the development of a top class centre forward that would be around as a key part of a successful team for years
LVG told us that last week
He was given third or 4th choice players.
He told you that they never replaced RVP and as a result he had to move Rooney to number 9 even though his best position was number 10
Top teams replace top players in advance with a like for like policy
That is why the worlds best look like they will be around for ever
I disagree that Zlatans shirt sales paid for Pogba.
Zlatans shirt sales paid for Zlatans erormous salary
As did Falcao as did Sweinsteiger
LVG told us in the interview that he didn't want them."They were injured when they came"
So that begs the question yet again who signed them and why?
LVG admitted that Di Maria was a mistake.His mistake
You sound like you think it is a good thing to have ageing failing players changeing position to try to survive another season or two in what are key positions
That is a money saving exercise only
It stops team development
Valencia should not have been around so long.There should have been a Kyle Walker type buy
Giggs should not have been around so long after his legs had gone.There should have been a world class proven winger bought.We still don't have a top class winger
Carrick should have been replaced 3 years ago.We have held on to Mata and Herrara for 3 years too long.City go out and buy the likes of David Dilna and de Bruyne.And when they "start" moving towards the end they will be replaced in advance
Jones and Smalling have improved under Ole from dreadful to average.Why were we not in for van Dyke?
I fear for the defence this month with Barca and City coming.Don't you
If i accept that we have spent £600m on players since SAF went upstairs i say that is not close to enough
In those 6 or so years that works out at an average of about £100m a year
In the current market that is about the cost of one player
The worlds best forwards and midfielders cost more than that and the worlds best defenders cost a bit less.Mbappe at £170m and van Dijk at £70m prove that
We have needed to replace our entire team,with the exception of DDG so we needed to have replaced 10 first teamers
That could have cost us £1 billion and that is giving no mention of a back up squad and a youth development team that has been dismantled by these owners
If £1 billion sounds stupid can you tell me how much has been made over the last 7 years and how much the Glazers might have had and then honestly try to tell me we could not afford £1 billion.
I suspect we could easily have afforded that and the team would still be at the top level and the Glazers would have had a lot of money and the value would STILL have been in the club long term
A fair balancing act is all i ask
What we have is a club that cost nothing being milked totally and consistently at the expense of the long term life of the team
We saw it at Blackpool,we saw it at Portsmouth and Glasgow Rangers and Hearts and until the current owners came along at Liverpool