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Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:35 pm

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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 am

I suggest attacking them before we go a goal down.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:03 am

Dante wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 am
I suggest attacking them before we go a goal down.
If the lampost is ever to score another goal this would be his game



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Dante wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 am
I suggest attacking them before we go a goal down.
You are assuming we will score if we do attack ?


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:10 am

Sigmar wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm
Dante wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 am
I suggest attacking them before we go a goal down.
You are assuming we will score if we do attack ?
I think, on the balance of probabilities, we're more likely to score if we attack, than if we don't attack.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:24 pm

Dante wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:10 am
Sigmar wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm
Dante wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 am
I suggest attacking them before we go a goal down.
You are assuming we will score if we do attack ?
I think, on the balance of probabilities, we're more likely to score if we attack, than if we don't attack.
Well thisi is true, however we needed a penalty against City to get a shot on goal.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:08 pm

de Gea
Darmian Lindelof Smalling Young
Matic Pogba
Lindgard. Mata. Martial
Lukaku
Subs: Fellaini, Jones, Sanchez, Fred, Grant, Valencia


I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Football. Bloody hell.

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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:59 pm

Wow ...


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:00 pm

With Jose the records keep tumbling
Palace had lost on their previous eleven visits to OT, but not today, dismal is too good a word to describe that performance, and we are offering new contracts to this shower of shit, on who's advice ....Josés it has to be.

The bloke is a fornicate clown, someone call him a taxi before top ten is the goal for the season.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 pm

Sigmar wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:00 pm
With Jose the records keep tumbling
Palace had lost on their previous eleven visits to OT, but not today, dismal is too good a word to describe that performance, and we are offering new contracts to this shower of shit, on who's advice ....Josés it has to be.

The bloke is a fornicate clown, someone call him a taxi before top ten is the goal for the season.

It's all Jose's fault

The back four were torn open time and time again
That's all Jose's fault
Somebody,presumably Jose is alledgedly offering Valencia and Young a one year extension if they take a pay cut
It wouldn't be Woodward
It must be Jose

Somebody for some reason is offering Smalling a brand new contract rather than sign a top quality centre half
That must be Jose
It wouldn't be the owners trying to get a cheap option

I agree that DDG and Pogba should be sold
They are both greedy bastards because we don't need the money do we???

I am not sure who the new manager will be but he will get unlimited backing from these owners
Whoever he is i will say i back him but will have reservations in a couple of years

What do you think Mav?



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:32 pm

Who's decision was it to take off Mata and Lingard whilst keeping Pogba and Lukaku on?

By the time Pogba finally came off, the only thing left to do was pump long balls into the box for Fellaini.



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:01 am

Palace will be kicking themselves for not coming away with a 4-0 win


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:42 am

Sandies wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:01 am
Palace will be kicking themselves for not coming away with a 4-0 win
Yep. If only they could hit the target.



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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:46 am

Today's game reminded me of the anecdote ..

The Pessimist: OMG, it can't get any worse than that..
The Optimist: Oh Yes, it can..


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:38 pm

This is from Sky Sports Sunday Supplement. They tend to be very anti-united sometimes but to me, they're on the money here. For all Jose's past successes, he's had this pattern of capitulation and in-fighting after 2 seasons, it's happening again, and somehow we seem to be hanging on for a different outcome. I think our players have done ok tbh considering the obvious acrimony in that dressing room. If this were Chelsea or Madrid, they would have proper downed tools ages ago. Our players seem torn between playing for the shirt and despising the manager.


Anyway, enough from me, here it is:
Jose Mourinho is looking increasingly out of touch with the modern game after the Manchester United manager's latest damning assessment of his players, according to the Sunday Supplement panel.

A lacklustre United were fortunate to draw 0-0 with Crystal Palace at Old Trafford on Saturday as they fell 14 points behind leaders Manchester City.

The result and nature of the performance came after Mourinho had claimed United lacked "character", with modern players acting like "spoilt kids".


The Portuguese was also damning in his post-match analysis after dropping another two points against Palace, questioning the "heart" of his players.


United's struggles were discussed on the Sunday Supplement, and the Daily Star's chief sports writer Jeremy Cross believes Mourinho has become a "tired, old guy".

"That dressing room is in a bit of a state," he said. "It all seems very torn, and the one person to blame for that is the manager. He creates an atmosphere that is reflective of the way he behaves.

"He makes the point in midweek that young players nowadays are mollycoddled, which is a fair point but then he names four of his own players, which seemed a bizarre and dangerous thing to do.


"One of the players he named was Anthony Martial, who has basically kept him in a job the last four or five weeks.

"Another player he mentioned was Luke Shaw, who revealed not long ago he nearly lost his leg and has done really well to get back in the England squad."


United dropped to seventh in the Premier League after failing to score in a top-flight home meeting with Crystal Palace for the first time since October 1970.

A first home clean sheet of the season wasn't enough to lift the mood, with the players booed off at the full-time whistle by a section of supporters.

With the club now faced with an uphill task to qualify for next season's Champions League, Mourinho called out his players saying they had not attached enough importance on the game, and said there was not enough desire shown.

"If they're cosseted, over-protected, over-sensitive players, him saying there's no heart and no desire, what's that going to do to them? That's not going to help them," argued the Mail On Sunday's chief sports writer Oliver Holt.

"If they're not robust individuals, then he's just making the situation worse. I found it a damning analysis of the modern player, and of players within his own squad.

"He comes across as somebody who distrusts young players. One of the many great things about Ferguson was his ability to adapt from generation to generation, to get the best out of younger players.

"He loved bringing youth through, but Mourinho speaks like someone who distrusts these players. He's at a club with a magnificent record of bringing through young players.

"He talks of young players with disdain, and it is a really interesting window into the problems that there are at Manchester United.

"In style on the pitch and attitude off it, Mourinho looks more and more like yesterday's man."

Unless that's complete vapourware and they've made it all up, this guy needs to go sharpish. There are a lot of issues around the club at the minute, but he's a big one.


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Re: Pre/Post Match Discussion: Premier League vs Crystal Palace (h)

Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:55 pm

he does need to go and he indeed clearly wants to go

So why hasn't the only one who can get rid of him ie Woodward done it?
He has the time to organise next seasons pre season tour in Australia and Japan
Clearly the cash for next season is more important that to start sorting out the mess the owners are to blame for.
They hired Jose after all

Also strong strong rumours that DDG is off to PSG and Pogba off to Juventus
Martial wants away as well
So who is acrually trying to keep hold of or replace these top class players

I hear that somebody(it call only be Woodward) is trying to negotiate cheap extensions for Young and Valencia and a new long term contract for Smalling
You can't blame Jose for that either



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