Van Gaal's thoughts:Dante wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:56 pmSo, Jose has brought us up to being, probably the second best team in the country. We're looking better than last seasons champions Chelsea, we've retained the mean defence whilst starting to score much more freely.
The problem is that City are seemingly out of this world. They've improved in almost every regard. And whilst they will likely drop more points in the second half of the season, they're certainly not going to collapse in the way we would need them to if we were to have a sniff of winning the League this year.
We can't outspend City ( we were roughly on par for net spend this summer), we can't raid them and it's unlikely other clubs will be able to either. So how do we close the gap?
I think this is probably going to be Mourinho's last season with us. He has been up to his old tricks this season, complaining about a lack of spending, not ruling out moving, etc. If PSG are looking for a coach this summer then I think he is definitely off, and there are one or two more that might tempt him.ivandaman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:25 pmWe need to get our act together.. I'm fine with second. City seem to be like Wenger's invincibles but on some high end steroids. No way we can do anything this year about them. They are already champions. Thats a done deal.
But we spent more money than everyone else in the league and we should be aiming for second and certainly we should be able to win against Burnley and Southampton at home. We need to stay in the top 4. Finishing out of the top 4 would be unacceptable on any level and if this happens Moanihno should be kicked out of Old Trafford just like the other two clowns before him were..
Yes he is overrated isn't heivandaman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:22 pmMouninhno is overrated anyway.. If it wasn't for that russian referee who cancelled Scholes goal against Porto no one would have heard of him. He's just one of those people born under a very very lucky star. I give him credit for taking advantage of opportunities that came his way, but in my opinion he was never anything "Special" and neither he'll ever be. Just a very very luck dude. That's all he is.
As far as United and City are concerned. The era of United dominating is over. The best I personally hope for is that we can take advantage of each others upward and downward cycles. Something like what's happening with Madrid and Barcelona. A few years Barcelona is on top then they have a slight dip or decline and Madrid taking advantage of it. Then Barca get their shit together and push again for the top.
Something like this is the best we can hope for. City are here to stay. Only some financial cataclysm in the oil-world can bring them down. We thought Chelsea was this financial powerhouse with unlimited resources, but Abramovich is like poor little kid in comparison to city's owners. So things are not going to get any easier any time soon.
Point taken, but life just happens to be about taking chances, fortune favours the brave and all thativandaman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:14 pmI know the stats. As I've said. Credit to him for taking advantage of the opportunities that presented themselves. Keep in mind that he was always coaching teams with good budgets. Inter may have been an exception. Not sure how financially strong they were at the time. But Chelsea, Madrid and United are all clubs with solid financial resources. If he makes a Champion of Newcastle than we are talking about someone "Special" ..
It all depends on Pep, and I don't think he'll be around too long. City have been very hit and miss since they got taken over. One year win, next year garbage. Things have come together in Peps second year, but it all depends on him sticking around to keep that going.RedSte wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:49 pmWe all knew this was going to eventually happen when the Sheikh bought the Berties. Only hope of avoiding a decade or more of City domination (with the occasional flourish from Chelsea) is if the Glazers can (a) be persuaded to sell and (b) if the buyer is one of the handful of people in the world who is richer than the Sheikh.
On the whole , pretty unlikely to happen, so prepare for a future of battling for a Top 4 place and the odd cup win (in other words, welcome to the United of my youth!)
I agree with everything you have said Ray but this just isn't true.raycreative wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 pmLukaku-Worst Manchester United centre forward in my 60 years of watching.He turns like the Titanic trying to miss the iceberg and when you play a one-two with him you might as well play the ball against an octagonal lampost.It could go anywhere
Still no genuine class width n the team is there??
So the Edwards family became millionaires by being butchers and selling dodgy meat ?Dante wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:21 pm
In the end, the Glazers are killing the club, but not in the way people thought they would. They should never have been allowed to buy the club without having any money and then loading the debt used for the purchase on to the club, but by ruthlessly exploiting the commercial potential, they've actually managed to render the debt irrelevant. The problem is they just don't care about the club being the best in England, let alone the world. Manchester United is just something that exists for them to extract cash from.
We'd probably have been better off with Michael Knighton.
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