Is that a reply to Martin, or just a reminder for your Christmas shopping?Matt wrote:Fickle wanker.Martin wrote:Rooney was fantastic. Come at me bros.
Plainly there has been a lot of work on defence on the training ground, so that it functioned well despite changes in personnel as the guys get used to the system.DaveMart wrote:They were very complimentary on MOTD about how organised our defence was, and illustrated it well.
Its worth while suffering a bit to see the glimmer of a decent defence emerging, with both Blackett and McNair coming good, and the likes of Smalling and Young.
Perhaps I am being unduly lenient on our back line, but I thought our problem was essentially in the midfield, who neither covered the back line nor provided anything for the forwards, and conclusively lost the battle in the middle of the pitch.Keano wrote:I actually don't understand how our defence is getting any praise after that game. I thought Smalling was decent and both wing backs put in a decent shift, but Blackett and McNair both had poor games, and the entire back line suffered. Arsenal looked like scoring every time they got into the final third. Gaps were everywhere and on another day we could have easily conceded quite a few. That was to be expected with the defence we put out today though. A defence with kids and wingers couldn't realistically resist a very good attacking side in Arsenal and signalling out players for criticism under such circumstances is probably unfair. I just don't get praising the defensive part of a United team that looked very lost and open today.
10/10 for effort and determination, though. Carrick and Fellaini started the game poorly then managed to take some sort of control over the centre of the pitch in the second half. I thought both of them used the ball very well and made the right decisions with it throughout. Valencia (and Young) put in a great effort. Got sucked into the middle a little too much during the second half, but he gave everything. As did most of the players today to be fair. A very committed display. Rooney and De Gea showed their quality big time.
I hate to criticise players after a big result, but van Persie's performance today was just unacceptable. I read somewhere that he only made two passes today. Two. Very poor on the ball and did absolutely nothing without it. Trying to play him into form is clearly not working ... maybe dropping him for a couple of games will?
Sure they did, and I suspect they were told to do that by someone, perhaps Smalling who after all had to organise the back line with some newbies around him.mikey wrote:I have to wonder if LvG is telling our defenders to just boot the ball anywhere to clear it. I noticed it earlier on in the season when we were under the cosh and I thought it was just inexperience on behalf of our young defenders and that LvG would cut it out.
FixedMerlin wrote:"How the heck did we come away with 3 points in that match after the first half?"
W[strike]ellbeck[/strike]ilshere is the reason why.
Matt wrote:[pen]Only managed to get home at the 70 minute mark. Can't say I saw much of what you guys are saying, seems like it was the first half that was a mess.[/pen]
Having said that, I didn't all that headless running after the ball, and we can thank our lucky stars that Arsenal are shit at finding goals.
A lucky win like this may turn the tide though, we've been unlucky this season with a lot of injuries, and obviously confidence wasn't high, not a bad way to change that.
LVG was getting stick prior to the game in the media for getting rid of him, and our club legend Moyes said that he would have kept him.Merlin wrote:"How the heck did we come away with 3 points in that match after the first half?"
Wellbeck is the reason why.
To me, it looked not only like the scrappy, never say die United I love, although without our old dominance as yet, but like a true team effort, with our guys knowing exactly what they were expected to do, but by and large, doing it.in truth the United keeper made a lot of saves he would be expected to make, rather than any truly outstanding ones.
Or as Van Gaal put it: "Most of his saves were from outside the area and from that distance the goalkeeper has more advantage than the player shooting."
The biggest reason De Gea's recently dislocated finger was not truly tested was United's makeshift backline, something few people expected to be saying before this game when they saw the team sheet with the names of Smalling, McNair and Blackett on it.
A fourth clean sheet of the season looked even less likely when one of the wing-backs, Luke Shaw, was forced off after 16 minutes to be replaced by Ashley Young - who according to his manager is not fully fit.
At that stage, Arsenal were rampant and it seemed a case of when they would score, not if. But instead of collapsing, United stood firm.
Smalling, who is not viewed as natural leader, marshalled the youngsters either side of him. In front of them, Michael Carrick and Marouane Fellaini added much-needed bite to midfield.
Together they earned Van Gaal a win that moved his side up to fourth in the table - something he seemed surprised about when he was told.
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